Tuesday, September 27, 2011

How WBC Fails: God H8's 17/19

The Westboro Baptist Church (or WBC) is an Independent Baptist “church” known for its extreme stance against homosexuality, other religions, and anything else that tickles their fancy. They are also known for their greatly offensive protest activities against fallen service men/woman and high profile aka popular people. In this special section, we will explore their hateful and distorted “divine” teachings and expose them for what they truly are, a hate group who uses religion for personal power. 

Part: 17/19
Name: God doesn’t cause bad things to happen to people.” Pt 17 WBCs GOD H8S vid
Link:  http://www.twitvid.com/TRAWX
Update: Videos have been removed. Blog now shows video of all of them combined.
Bible Verse use:
Rom 1:21: For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Isa 48:11: For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this. How can I let myself be defamed? I will not yield my glory to another.
Isa 45:12,18: It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts. For this is what the LORD says--he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited--he says: "I am the LORD, and there is no other.
John 8:44: You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Psalm 76:10: Surely the wrath of man shall praise you; the remnant of wrath you will put on like a belt.
Amos 3:6: When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When disaster comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it?

Anyone else love how the video opens with "God hates idols" and her admiring herself in the mirror?

Perhaps ignorance really is bliss? When you (claim) not to know, or willing fool yourself, it seems the sky’s the limit! No one can judge you, no one can make the foolish claim of being better than you. HA! Simpletons! I’m kinda surprised the WBC doesn’t have that as a sign yet…When you are ignorant to the fact that you are doing ill, when you mistaking believe the world revolves around you, how could you possibility do anything wrong? After all what’s the point of following the evil vile laws of "imperfect humanity" when god himself has giving you a personal “you are elect do what ever you want” card! I wonder if the various family members of the cult are even capable of rational thinking any more. Of course when you consider how excited they where over the 9/11 event, I think we may have our answer. In today's video, we have host Rachel Mii attempt to persuade the viewers that god is the source of all happenings in the world. This would included the fact that every “disaster” is punishment from god because of what ever the WBC happens to be protesting at the time. They are still on gay people right? Or is it 7/11 and wawa now? Much like the previous installments of their God H8’s series, they do little to hide their ignorance and egotistic attitude.

The fact is they are right, and you are wrong, and there is jack shit you can do about it. Just like last time, and times before that, I will show you just how wrong they are.

What she said "You liar shut your mouth about god, you don't believe in god. You serve false gods like that fat ass mother nature, a figment of your dark heart and your evil mind blah blah blah"

Having followed this cult for some time, I see not only a pattern form in this one but many of the others I have studied as well. When one believes they are right, and will not hear the words of others, you have to expect a certain degree of ego and attitude from its members. Steve being the worse of the bunch here. They use broad over-reaching statements to feed their collective "I'm better than you" drone mind. Also like many other cults, when present with counter arguments, they will either scream and yell till you go away, or take part in the childish act of "la la la can't hear you". I wonder if they even care about what all this hate is doing to them. To hate 24/7, that has to eat away at you. Hell, if we refer to a bible for a moment, 1 John 3:15 tells us that to hate is to be liken to a murder. So about this first line they said....it's enough to start the ball rolling, really is a just a clusterf*** of a train wreck.  Let me try to break this down into three main points, just for the sake of keeping it somewhat organized.

Point 1:
First when you want people to take your message seriously, you generally need to present yourself in a mature adult like manner. A bit of humanism and light hard heartedness is ok, but outright behavior from the second grade is a big no no. Partaking in name calling, much like seen in grade school relax areas not only cheapens you and your message, but allows you to be ignored. After all if the message can’t be given in a mature manner, and one has to resort in name calling, what’s the point of listening?  I am pretty sure the WBC would have words with me if I told our narrator she had “a shovel bashed hooker face”.  What is not OK for one, is most certainly not OK for another. But I can hear their comments now “but this is how the bible tells us to teach! We are doing god’s work rebel scum! We are justified in everything we do”*1 While searching the internet bible database on various ways on how to teach, I can tell you for a fact I never found instances of “protest funerals and be a douchey as possible”. Also if we take a moment to think about that, according to the WBC everything is pre-arranged. How can one be a rebel if one was created by god to be just that? Hmmmmmm.... Anyways getting back on topic, what I did find where numerous instances of Christ chilling with a bunch of strangers and calmly teaching. No violence, no “you’re going to hell” signs, just simple preaching… and sometimes a meal. In addition to this, I would also like to share two verses I found interesting while researching this rebuking;

2 Timothy 4:2: Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.
~With great patience and careful instruction, nothing about “we great hate and biasness”

Hebrews 12:14: Strive for peace with everyone, and for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.
~Casting everyone to hell, before even meeting 99% of them, is not striving for peace.  It’s HATE.

Point 2:
With that out of the way, we see more childish name calling. Here, “fat ass” is used as an insult. We already knew the cult had zero respect for anything (save for their own ego called “god”), and will stop at nothing for some cheap insult; but why bring issues of weight into this? Since God controls all things (Isa 45:12,18) God made us in his own image (Genesis 1:27), Jesus came to die for our sins and make us clean (John 3:16-17, Hebrews 2:9), and we should call nothing God made clean evil (Acts 10:15) how could they use any physical feature as a insult?  One would think they would be a bit more understanding to such a thing since many of their own members are overweight. *2

Point 3:
The final point I would like to make about this one statement, is her attitude and tone to what she considers fact. Consider our politicians of today. When they make grandiose promises to the people simply to get votes, the axe always comes down hard when they don’t follow with them. Also consider how a simple “misfact” can destroy a persons standing, or worse. This is a something I fear the WBC will never learn. In the first twenty seconds of her babbling, we have Rachel state that anyone who watches this video is a follower of Mother Nature. If only that was the case, maybe this world would be a bit greener and friendlier. While I would be rather happy and amused if the world turned to a greener path, alas this won’t ever be the case. This is how the cult runs into many of their problems, without proof or merit, they assume everything they think, do, or say is right. After all they said God elected them, so it must be true because they said so! >_>

What she said "God causes everything to happen, he controls everything, and he is a sovereign god"
We now get to point where we can start discussing the actual theme of their video, not the unnecessary amount of flush and childish insults they add. The question is posed “does this sovereign god really let bad things happen”? In a previous entry, we addressed the issue of free will, how such a thing could totally be granted by the divine, and how there was even biblical evidence to back it up.  Keeping this in mind, I think we are ready to address our present issue. Asking why any divine being would allow such bad things to happen, or why the divine allows bad things to happen to good people are questions as old as any faith. When the rainstorm washes away our homes, when the earth opens up below up, when fire falls from the sky, when people kill people, its horrid to even think about. When such things happen, when we appear to have no answers, we have all asked at one point why this could happen, and why the divine could let it happen. 

If the WBC is to be believed, then all of this occurs because the all mighty bi-polar god is punishing us for what ever the WBC currently doesn’t like.  Because we as a whole tolerate and did not snuff out the “horridly evil homosexuality”, all people must suffer until this happens. Which of course brings up the idea of them advocating violence… but let’s not digress yet.  But is this true? To answer this, or to even research this, one finds as many answers as there are people.  The arguments I will present today are of a biblical and “common sense” nature.

Point 1: Common Sense
When ever some type of nature event occurs, members of the WBC leap on it praying for a high body count and delighting in telling the world how this is an example of “God’s wrath”.  But what of all the other natural occurrences that shake and form our planet? Would it surprise you to learn that our little blue ball experienced 16,481 recorded earthquakes*3  this year alone? Why doesn’t the WBC report on these? Why isn’t their twitter exploding each time one of these earth shakes happened? Earth quakes and natural events happen all the time, it is part of the way this planet supports life. If such things did not occur, then our blue planet would have died out LONG ago. Random earthquakes and natural events are random, sometimes they hit where people have settled, and sometimes they don’t. Do we blame god for a tornado hitting a place called tornado ally? Or when the sea crashes into coastal towns? The point I am trying to make here is “shit happens”, God isn’t personally involved with it.

If you need any more thought provoking evidence for this read this: http://reason.org/news/show/extreme-weather-kills-fewer-people
I wonder how god could be killing more and more people with natural disasters when less and less people are dead from it…

Point 2: The bibical
When we ask “why does God let bad things happen to good people” the answer is simple; God has nothing to do with it. He doesn’t sit up on high and delight as we are used in some silly “you just got punked” episode.  The only thing God is guilty of is giving us free will. When bad or evil things occur in our lives, they do so because God gives a radical freedom to do as we please; we are free people, not puppets on a string. That’s right Ms Drone, we are not here to be the play things of a bi-polar god like you say on your twitter. We are given free will to either choose an evil path, or a path of good.  When some idiot with a gun thinks he’s a big man for shooting some random kid? That’s the guy excusing his free will to be a class A ahole douche bag. God did not send the shooter, because God does not cause "bad" things to happen. God loves us and grieves with us in our pain when "bad things" happen (John 11:35, 1 Peter 5:7, Jeremiah 31:3, Romans 8:35-39). Also if we continue down this road, we see any "bad" thing which happens is never the last word. Again shit happens, but we press on! Rather, God is the deepest and last word, and that word is love and eternal life with God. After all why would he send his only son to save the world if he didn’t give a damn about it? Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 1 John 1:8 and Romans 3:10-18 already tell us that ALL (yes even the WBC) are tainted with sin and unworthy of the glory of God. Remember, He didn’t have to do jack shit for us!

… but he did. In fact "He will wipe every tear from their eyes" Revelation 21:4.

So does God really sit up on high and delight in making us suffer like the WBC says? HELL NO! Just read the bible for yourself, you will see this crazy message of “peace love and bread” come up time and time again.

What she said "Was 9/11 a clerk error? Was god on vacation for Katrina? Do you think he was taking a nap during the Japanese earthquake? Here's your simple answer Amos 3:6"

If we are to assume this statement as truth, then the WBC has just said their god is the single source of all evil in the universe. No love, no redemption for anyone, no nothing, it is evil. A divine being (of no matter what faith) that delighted in death, destruction, suffering and hate was always thought of as evil.  When a god creates things for the sole purpose of doing all the before mentioned? Pure evil.  And anyone who delights in the deaths of so many, anyone who thought 9/11 should be celebrated, is nothing more than a terrorist.

Take your god and shove it WBC, I’ll be happy with my greener path.  

*1: It becomes far more amusing when you do it with a Dark Vader like voice.
*2: Also aside from the fact that many (if not all) saw large women as healthy child bearers, why bring weight into this at all? Since the WBC thinks women should not be preachers and just be good little child bearers like in the bible, wouldn’t being a “Fat ass” be a good thing?
*3 Natural events aren’t actually bad or evil; they have and will continue to happen with or without humanity here.

1 comment:

  1. As of 10/19, a bit of house keeping was done to this posting.